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MikeD #735313 Sat 30/08/14 17:01 UTC
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Originally Posted by MikeD
But we see that sort of 'lack of differentiation' all the time in the real world too, don't we? Here is an interesting analogy. How many of us here can listen to an Asian speaker and know if they are Chinese, Japanese, Korean, Thai or something else? I know that I cannot.


Well, I usually can, but I'm a linguist...

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That is one hand raised <weg>



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I can definitely tell the difference between those, Mike. Even Gujurati and Punjabi.

Though I'd struggle with Cantonese vs Mandarin, or Punjabi/Gujurati vs Hindi, unless they were spoken with very distict accents like you get with Hong Kongers.

But having said all that, none of these examples are different species, unlike halflings, gnomes and dwarfs. Maybe D&D dwarfs don't do the tinkering and inventions any more? They did in Basic D&D. (Still do in Warhammer.)

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Yeah, D&D dwarves are miners now almost exclusively. Smiths too, but not tinkers. That's now gnomes. I believe that change began with the Dragonlance setting and books and has been taken on as standard across the board.

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While dwarves are not =traditionally= tinkerers now, you certainly =could= make one that is. You would just have to work at it a bit harder than you would to follow 'what is normal' <g>

It seems like the goal with this version is to ... 'nudge' the races into specific directions. I have not decided yet if I particularly like that idea, but I =do= understand it to some extent. Someone that was born and raised on Manhattan is a lot less likely to become a farmer than someone born and raised on a farm in South Dakota ... if you see what I mean. I think it also offers some 'role playing' opportunities when someone 'goes against' that norm.



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I agree with you Mike about professions based on a particular setting. I doubt that dwarves, gnomes and elves in an Athas or Ebberon setting will be the same as the ones in the Forgotten Realms. When other settings come out it's likely that new backgrounds and traits will be presented.

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Good point Nep. Looking forward to seeing how things evolve <g>


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I think there was a 4e Dragon article that officially introduced tinker gnomes to Forgotten Realms. Tinkering as a cornerstone of a civilisation works better for me than illusion.

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Good review! smile

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