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Neptune #1027171 Thu 10/03/22 01:38 UTC
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Page 195 of my player's handbook:
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RANGED ATTACKS IN CLOSE COMBAT
Aiming a ranged attack is more difficult when a foe is next to you. When you make a ranged attack with a weapon, a spell, or some other means, you have disadvantage on the attack roll if you are within 5 feet of a hostile creature who can see you and who isn't incapacitated.
Some spells don't need to "hit". IE: they require a saving throw. They are not affected. Dissonant Whispers is such a spell, therefore a good choice smile
No need to step back - especially since you're under water.
You decide heal or kill. I'll wait patiently for your post.


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Originally Posted by Pandemonium
If Sindar steps back a square, that provokes an opportunity attack correct?
As usual, Nep's call.

But in my uninformed opinion if he allowed himself to float, up and away he would fall into that caveat.

Plus his singing voice will carry better above water. I regret not doing that last turn. wink

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Moving away from an adjacent enemy provokes attacks of opportunity. It's not subjective.


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Originally Posted by Neptune
Moving away from an adjacent enemy provokes attacks of opportunity. It's not subjective.
Sure, if you say "moving".

But you do not provoke an attack "when someone or something moves you without using your movement, action, or reaction."

You rise in water due to buoyancy, just as you can fall due to gravity. Falling does not provoke an opportunity attack. If the rising water lifts you up as you float, you are not using movement. You are being moved by the water.

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That is not what it means.

The someone or something would be a push or a spell. Floating away using buoyancy is the character's choice, unless he/she is dead or paralyzed. In D&D we do not apply the normal laws of physics.


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When I'm in water I naturally float and I have to choose to swim down. grin

So since Archimedes' buoyancy laws don't apply I suppose using mirrors for his death ray isn't a valid attack either.

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Correct
And you're not accounting for the everything that Sindar is carrying (good thing I'm not fussy about encumbrance). Arguments like this are what trigger that type accounting weg.


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Bern gets 3 attacks? I thought it was 2. Just curious.

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He gets 2 attacks per round and uses a 2-handed attack.
So he gets Main (rapier) + off hand (dagger as a bonus action) plus main (rapier) for his second attack.


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Ah. And if Sindar hits him with an OA Bern gets another Save, correct?

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Yes, which is what I posted in the game thread smile


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Well, considering how few HPs Zhu has left I am keeping my fingers crossed Sindar hits with his OA and MikeD can finally roll a decent roll for Bern.

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Whaddya talkin about?? I have been making lots of 'great' rolls. Unfortunately not the ones I =really= need at the moment <sigh>

Sindar ... please ... kill me now! I don't wanna hurt my friends!! <sigh>


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Zhu would still have a few HPs left (not many) after this even if Sindar misses or Bern fails his save.


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Yes. If Bern's attacks go forward, she will need to save versus the Lair attack to remain standing though I believe.

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So I wanted to talk about 5e subclasses. The last time I did a deep dive into all the subclasses was Dec 2020 and over the past year I see there have been a bunch of new additions to the line-up and a whole new main class, the Artificer (which sounds a bit vague and dull to me tbh).

So Nep, Zeim, anyone else with an opinion, any good new subclasses been released over the past year? And what do you make of the Artificer?

Also, I haven't read owt about new races but there must be some that've come out in the past year. Anything stand out?

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I think Nep tried to play an Artificer in a short-lived game. I haven't really researched them to any deep level.

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Reading up on them, they're basically inventors. Probably should've just called them that, then people would know what the heck they are!

Still, either way it's rather a backroom role for a D&D character. It doesn't scream "high adventure" to me.

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All OK, Neptune? Not waiting on me are you? grin

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I think he is still recovering from the Fantasy Baseball Draft on Saturday.

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Yeah. Just getting back now and it wasn't just the fantasy baseball auction.

The Fantasy Baseball draft meant about 60 hours of player research and planning (for a byte-head like me that is actually the fun part). Baseball is a very statistics based game and these days new player statistics are incredible. For example, they have a system called statcast which does many things like calculate the launch angle of a ball that the batter hits, the number of rotations that a baseball makes between the time it leaves the pitcher's hands and crosses the plate. All these thing paint a picture of what the player is capable of. That was followed by the 8 hour player auction. We distributed 350 players this way. Zeim was our auctioneer and did a great job.

That was everything leading up to and through Saturday. On Sunday I had to go to my son's apartment and help him get it ready for a new arrival (my first grandson is due in 2 weeks!!!!). Today was spent getting paperwork signed and notarized to sell my old NY home, obtain a Florida driver's license, register my car, get my TV provider to admit there's a problem so that they send out a technician this week and I spent several hours on hold between 3 different departments of Palm Beach County building inspectors and planners to get my pool heater permit closed.

I'll try and work up a nice post soon.


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Wow! I never knew that someone would actually count the number of rotations of the baseball from pitcher to batter!

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It's always confounded me that motorsports, having had sophisticated telemetry for decades, barely shows any of it in the live coverage. I mean, they rarely even show you how fast a car's going.

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Glad to see you are settling in Neptune! grin

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Boy am I =glad= I am retired. If I tried to do all that I would likely be dead now :-/


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