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| | | Joined: May 2000 Posts: 13,229 Likes: 10 Wobbly Headed Administrator | Wobbly Headed Administrator Joined: May 2000 Posts: 13,229 Likes: 10 | | | | | Joined: Jun 2002 Posts: 10,735 Likes: 3 Administrator | Administrator Joined: Jun 2002 Posts: 10,735 Likes: 3 | Thank you! I've edited Davroar's sheet and spells. | | | | Joined: May 2000 Posts: 27,780 Likes: 1 Member | Member Joined: May 2000 Posts: 27,780 Likes: 1 | That should be Kriv sorted. | | | | Joined: May 2000 Posts: 80,445 Likes: 80 Wizop Administrator | Wizop Administrator Joined: May 2000 Posts: 80,445 Likes: 80 | Jaliera is updated. Thanks! 
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| | | | Joined: May 2000 Posts: 42,503 Likes: 12 Member | Member Joined: May 2000 Posts: 42,503 Likes: 12 | Thanks. Missed the additional spell, I'll get that added.
MikeD
| | | | Joined: May 2000 Posts: 42,503 Likes: 12 Member | Member Joined: May 2000 Posts: 42,503 Likes: 12 | OK ... looking at the list, I am considering these 3 in the order presented:
Lesser Restore Darkvision Silence
Anyone have a suggestion?
MikeD
| | | | Joined: May 2000 Posts: 18,529 Likes: 7 Moderator | OP Moderator Joined: May 2000 Posts: 18,529 Likes: 7 | The capabilities and limitations of spells are designed to be basically even in value.
If you're the only one in the party that doesn't have the ability to see in the dark, then darkvision makes sense. But I don't think that's true and you're probably going to have someone torch it up no matter where you go.
Lesser restoration heals a condition and you can use it in-melee if a condition arises.
Silence is great if you run into a wizard that uses verbal components for spells. They can't use them.
Lesser Restoration - You touch a creature and can end either one disease or one condition afflicting it. The condition can be Blinded, Deafened, Paralyzed, or Poisoned.
Silence - For the Duration, no sound can be created within or pass through a 20-foot-radius Sphere centered on a point you choose within range. Any creature or object entirely inside the Sphere is immune to thunder damage, and creatures are Deafened while entirely inside it. Casting a Spell that includes a verbal component is impossible there. | | | | Joined: Aug 2005 Posts: 46,267 Member | Member Joined: Aug 2005 Posts: 46,267 | I'll try to get Ryssa advanced to 5th level this evening. | | | | Joined: May 2009 Posts: 16,650 Likes: 16 Chaotic Obfuscator Moderator | Chaotic Obfuscator Moderator Joined: May 2009 Posts: 16,650 Likes: 16 | I will leave the spell suggestions to the experts. For Luminmorn, I have to consider either 1 more level of Warlock to raise to 2, or one level of Paladin, which would get him that extra attribute point. The warlock level gets one more spell and spell slot, not a ton, but more utility. I know that the gurus say the paladin level with the attribute point is worth more, and next level he could get an extra attack if I did paladin again. I am torn. Spell choices don't change if I go paladin, as near as I can tell, but Lay on hands would go up, to 20 right? As always looking for feedback on my weirdness.  | | | | Joined: May 2000 Posts: 18,529 Likes: 7 Moderator | OP Moderator Joined: May 2000 Posts: 18,529 Likes: 7 | Pande, 2nd + 4th levels are far less important bumps than 3rd or 5th level. You seem to be in purgatory because of that. As a warlock 2 you gain invocations which are so-so for you. I wager that you'll be hacking away with your sword more often than not.
I would go with paladin because the stat bump at 4th could be applied to charisma which benefits both your warlock and paladin spells. Also, the extra 5 points for lay on hands will be nice. | | | | Joined: May 2009 Posts: 16,650 Likes: 16 Chaotic Obfuscator Moderator | Chaotic Obfuscator Moderator Joined: May 2009 Posts: 16,650 Likes: 16 | Sounds good to me.  Thanks! Evil dieroller, gave both AJ and I a 1 
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| | | | Joined: May 2000 Posts: 27,780 Likes: 1 Member | Member Joined: May 2000 Posts: 27,780 Likes: 1 | Sounds good to me.  Thanks! Evil dieroller, gave both AJ and I a 1 You may wish to recheck that. Evil die rollers like evil characters, it seems... | | | | Joined: May 2000 Posts: 42,503 Likes: 12 Member | Member Joined: May 2000 Posts: 42,503 Likes: 12 | So it sounds like I am down to Lesser Restoration and Silence. On the one hand, Ryssa is an awesome healer. Do either of the other casters have access to Silence?
MikeD
| | | | Joined: Oct 2001 Posts: 23,067 Likes: 12 (Buffalo) Moderator | (Buffalo) Moderator Joined: Oct 2001 Posts: 23,067 Likes: 12 | Pande - btw, not sure I read your note right, but it sounds like you did not take your stat bump last level because you thought you had to be a Paladin 4 to get it. That is not the case. Each pc gets a stat bump (or Feat) every 4 levels (except Fighter who gets it more frequently). Those are every 4 TOTAL levels, so you add all your classes together and if they add up to 4, or 8, etc then you get to raise a stat by 2 points or two stats by 1 point or take a feat. | | | | Joined: Oct 2001 Posts: 23,067 Likes: 12 (Buffalo) Moderator | (Buffalo) Moderator Joined: Oct 2001 Posts: 23,067 Likes: 12 | MikeD - Only your Cleric does,at 2nd level. However I think she'd be better off using those spells slots for Healing. Silence has a very specific set of uses (some are more Roll Playing than combat), so it may not be useful every time, but it can come in handy to have in the party. | | | | Joined: May 2000 Posts: 18,529 Likes: 7 Moderator | OP Moderator Joined: May 2000 Posts: 18,529 Likes: 7 | Zeim, I disagree. You get your stat bump only based on class - not overall level. Your proficiency bonus goes up regardless of class every 4 levels. See PHB page 163. | | | | Joined: May 2009 Posts: 16,650 Likes: 16 Chaotic Obfuscator Moderator | Chaotic Obfuscator Moderator Joined: May 2009 Posts: 16,650 Likes: 16 | Yeah, Nep told me I couldn't. <pouty lip munchkin style> So I am taking it this time. 2 pts into Cha, gets me another +1 on smite and spell DCs and such. | | | | Joined: Aug 2005 Posts: 46,267 Member | Member Joined: Aug 2005 Posts: 46,267 | Ryssa has been leveled up now... I think.  | | | | Joined: May 2000 Posts: 18,529 Likes: 7 Moderator | OP Moderator Joined: May 2000 Posts: 18,529 Likes: 7 | Huh? Me? What? What did I say? <G> | | | | Joined: Oct 2001 Posts: 23,067 Likes: 12 (Buffalo) Moderator | (Buffalo) Moderator Joined: Oct 2001 Posts: 23,067 Likes: 12 | I stand corrected. It IS listed in each classes Leveling table. I guess it is a counter-balance to multi-classing. | | | | Joined: May 2000 Posts: 42,503 Likes: 12 Member | Member Joined: May 2000 Posts: 42,503 Likes: 12 | So ... it sounds like Lesser Restoration is the 'consensus'?
MikeD
| | | | Joined: May 2009 Posts: 16,650 Likes: 16 Chaotic Obfuscator Moderator | Chaotic Obfuscator Moderator Joined: May 2009 Posts: 16,650 Likes: 16 | I liked Silence myself. But it is entirely up to you. | | | | Joined: May 2000 Posts: 80,445 Likes: 80 Wizop Administrator | Wizop Administrator Joined: May 2000 Posts: 80,445 Likes: 80 | Lesser Restoration is I think likely to be of more use. There are a fair number of opportunities (not the right word here  ) to gain conditions from cursed items, monsters, spells etc. How often are we likely to come up against an MU? My twopenneth. Oh and Paladin makes most sense to me Pande.  | | | | Joined: May 2000 Posts: 42,503 Likes: 12 Member | Member Joined: May 2000 Posts: 42,503 Likes: 12 | I think that LR is the right choice. Can't have too much healing <g>
MikeD
| | | | Joined: May 2009 Posts: 16,650 Likes: 16 Chaotic Obfuscator Moderator | Chaotic Obfuscator Moderator Joined: May 2009 Posts: 16,650 Likes: 16 | Please look over Luminmorn. I think I have leveled properly to 4/1 Paladin/Warlock. Next level will likely be Paladin again, if we were to get that far, for the second attack. Then maybe a warlock.  | | |
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