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| | | Joined: May 2009 Posts: 16,628 Likes: 16 Chaotic Obfuscator Moderator | Chaotic Obfuscator Moderator Joined: May 2009 Posts: 16,628 Likes: 16 | That is the biggest question. The munchkin says Tiefling might be a good choice. Also moving attributes around. Not sure it is necessary, but considering it. We also retain a Dragonborn, which means I could shift.
Are there any tieflings left? How does the race shift work in the fiction? A wavy bunch of lines go across the screen and voila new race? Or? | | | | Joined: Oct 2001 Posts: 23,057 Likes: 12 (Buffalo) Moderator | (Buffalo) Moderator Joined: Oct 2001 Posts: 23,057 Likes: 12 | Kallista was the only Tiefling, and she was a Tiefling because it is one of the best races for Warlock or Sorceror. So no Tiefling's left.
In your case, you still have to balance the Paladin side of the equation. Tiefling makes for a better Warlock, but not sure if it makes for a good Paladin. Do you lose more from your Paladin class (still your main class) by changing to Iiefling than you lose from Warlock by remaining a Dragonborn? Not sure.
As for the fiction, yeah, wavy lines or something like that. The game system allows for you to change race, class, and stats any time you like up to 4th level so it is sort of expected that you just suddenly are different and no one even remembers you the way you used to be. | | | | Joined: May 2009 Posts: 16,628 Likes: 16 Chaotic Obfuscator Moderator | Chaotic Obfuscator Moderator Joined: May 2009 Posts: 16,628 Likes: 16 | I think dragonborn stays in line with his goals best. First and foremost a paladin, and secondarily a warlock. So the +2 to Str, and +1 to Cha, fits with that goal, best.
Thanks for putting it in perspective. | | | | Joined: Oct 2001 Posts: 23,057 Likes: 12 (Buffalo) Moderator | (Buffalo) Moderator Joined: Oct 2001 Posts: 23,057 Likes: 12 | You also may want to choose which Pact you take (once you are able to) based on the expectations of play.
It is not likely that you guys will go up more than 1 more level during the game (2 at absolute most), unless Neptune and I decide to roll this playtest into another module to keep going.
That said, if you eliminate the powers that you would never get because they are for level 6+, it might help you decide which Pact to take. | | | | Joined: May 2009 Posts: 16,628 Likes: 16 Chaotic Obfuscator Moderator | Chaotic Obfuscator Moderator Joined: May 2009 Posts: 16,628 Likes: 16 | Thanks good way to help narrow down the choice. | | | | Joined: May 2000 Posts: 13,228 Likes: 10 Wobbly Headed Administrator | Wobbly Headed Administrator Joined: May 2000 Posts: 13,228 Likes: 10 | The seperation between dragons and demons is a D&D ism though, isn't it. Within European folklore, it seems that dragons, devils, demons became thematically blended as the Middle Ages progressed. Dracul, dracula, etc. Huh, which throws in some undead themes too!
I guess what I'm saying is, a Tiefling with a Pact doesn't have to be thematically different to a Dragonborn with a Pact. Even visually, both could be scaly, horned, inhuman looking.
If I were the player, I'd be more concerned with explaining the loss of an iconic power (like a breath weapon) in-continuity. Not impossible though. | | | | Joined: May 2009 Posts: 16,628 Likes: 16 Chaotic Obfuscator Moderator | Chaotic Obfuscator Moderator Joined: May 2009 Posts: 16,628 Likes: 16 | Well for my great concept, that I have been developing for a while now. The wild dragon aspect is an outgrowth of his dragon born aspect. Some dragon born grow wings and become full blow dragons. His evolution is a different tact, growing into something wild and more nature involved. That is the general theme, which is why I was leaning towards staying as a dragon born. It also numerically makes sense because of Str and Cha as his bonuses. Just as Pact of the Blade makes more sense than the other two for his evolution aspect. But trying to keep my mind open and listen to the experts about how things work, to try and craft in a direction that not only makes character sense, and mechanical sense. Does that make sense? (Sorry couldn't resist.  ) | | | | Joined: Oct 2001 Posts: 23,057 Likes: 12 (Buffalo) Moderator | (Buffalo) Moderator Joined: Oct 2001 Posts: 23,057 Likes: 12 | Yes, but as a playtest I wouldn't overly worry about the in-game change (were you to choose to change races).
The system allows it to happen and there is no requirement to explain how the Dragonborn Barbarian just turned into a Halfling Rogue. As far as everyone is concerned he has always been a Halfling Rogue and there never was a Dragonborn Barbarian.
Part of your change is to magically alter everyone's memories. | | | | Joined: May 2000 Posts: 27,777 Likes: 1 Member | Member Joined: May 2000 Posts: 27,777 Likes: 1 | Thumbs up on the level up, by the by. | | | | Joined: May 2000 Posts: 18,523 Likes: 7 Moderator | OP Moderator Joined: May 2000 Posts: 18,523 Likes: 7 | By the way, Zeim's headed off to China on business so I'll be picking up the DMing later this week. I happen to be on vacation so I have too much time on my hand.
Are all your PC's up to date? | | | | Joined: Aug 2005 Posts: 46,267 Member | Member Joined: Aug 2005 Posts: 46,267 | I just need to add Ryssa's share of the dragon spoils to her sheet.
Later... okay now, GP added.
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| | | | Joined: May 2000 Posts: 42,498 Likes: 12 Member | Member Joined: May 2000 Posts: 42,498 Likes: 12 | Yup ... just checked mine and fixed a typo <g>
MikeD
| | | | Joined: May 2009 Posts: 16,628 Likes: 16 Chaotic Obfuscator Moderator | Chaotic Obfuscator Moderator Joined: May 2009 Posts: 16,628 Likes: 16 | Yes, updating the name of the axe. | | | | Joined: May 2000 Posts: 80,372 Likes: 75 Wizop Administrator | Wizop Administrator Joined: May 2000 Posts: 80,372 Likes: 75 | Done sheet  | | | | Joined: May 2000 Posts: 42,498 Likes: 12 Member | Member Joined: May 2000 Posts: 42,498 Likes: 12 | A Bulette? Really? FWIW, 7 4th level characters is =NOT= the same as 4 7th levels (which is what the challenge rating is, BTW) ... especially since that thing can do up to 60 points of damage in a round, killing any one of =our= characters every round even if it only does average damage <sigh>
Nice knowin' y'all <wink>
MikeD
| | | | Joined: May 2000 Posts: 13,228 Likes: 10 Wobbly Headed Administrator | Wobbly Headed Administrator Joined: May 2000 Posts: 13,228 Likes: 10 | Chandan's gonna make an omelette out of this bulette!
Actually, afaik it's only CR5 in D&D 5e, MikeD, so we should be able to take it. But we can tell ourselves afterwards it was CR7. | | | | Joined: May 2009 Posts: 16,628 Likes: 16 Chaotic Obfuscator Moderator | Chaotic Obfuscator Moderator Joined: May 2009 Posts: 16,628 Likes: 16 | It was "THIS BIG!" Always growing every time we tell the tale. I like it. Course with a 0 on my imitative roll, I may be the first to volunteer to take the hit for the team.  | | | | Joined: May 2000 Posts: 42,498 Likes: 12 Member | Member Joined: May 2000 Posts: 42,498 Likes: 12 | Hmmmm ... so an 'ombulette' after combat feature <g>
Ahhh ... if you say so Neil. I don't have a 5 MM here <sigh>
MikeD
| | | | Joined: Oct 2001 Posts: 23,057 Likes: 12 (Buffalo) Moderator | (Buffalo) Moderator Joined: Oct 2001 Posts: 23,057 Likes: 12 | (OOC - MikeD - Bulette is CR5 and does 30 points of damage on a hit. The D&D CR system assumes 4 pcs and the CR rating should be equal to the avg pc level. So a CR4 is a good encounter for 4 4th level pcs. A CR5 should not be overly hard for 7 4th level pcs, especially considering Chandan just did potentially 37 points, if it fails it's save, and missed on his attack! Not to mention you just fought off a Young Green Dragon, which is CR8.
Think positively. I am not here to kill you all, and even though Neptune has the moniker "Evil DM" among my FTF group, he isn't here to kill you either.)
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| | | | Joined: May 2000 Posts: 42,498 Likes: 12 Member | Member Joined: May 2000 Posts: 42,498 Likes: 12 | Didn't realize they had nerfed one of the most awesome, fearsome monsters from the older versions so much ... but I =AM= glad in this particular situation <weg>
MikeD
| | | | Joined: Oct 2001 Posts: 23,057 Likes: 12 (Buffalo) Moderator | (Buffalo) Moderator Joined: Oct 2001 Posts: 23,057 Likes: 12 | Yeah, the "Land Shark" is not what it used to be. | | | | Joined: May 2000 Posts: 42,498 Likes: 12 Member | Member Joined: May 2000 Posts: 42,498 Likes: 12 | <sings> The old Land Shark it ain't what it used to be ... ain't what it used ta be ... </sing>
MikeD
| | | | Joined: May 2000 Posts: 18,523 Likes: 7 Moderator | OP Moderator Joined: May 2000 Posts: 18,523 Likes: 7 | Yeah, but i'm in a onrey mood. I picked up my laptop by the screen and felt a crack. It was my screen and my laptop is unusable, i'm posting now with my iPad (many backup options) but, as I said, the mood is foul. This might call for a swarm of bullette's to help me let off some steam!
-Nep
| | | | Joined: May 2000 Posts: 27,777 Likes: 1 Member | Member Joined: May 2000 Posts: 27,777 Likes: 1 | A swarm? Yay, our area effect spells just got better!
(Sympathies, may the repairs be swift and cheap.) | | | | Joined: May 2000 Posts: 13,228 Likes: 10 Wobbly Headed Administrator | Wobbly Headed Administrator Joined: May 2000 Posts: 13,228 Likes: 10 | Does the Law of Inverse Ninjitsu apply to bulettes, Nep? If so, bring on the swarm! If not... | | |
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