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As far as purchasing better armor, Ryssa currently wears a chain shirt and is proficient in light, medium and heavy armor. However, as she is drawn up, she depends more on dexterity than strength, so I can't see her going for really heavy armor.

Perhaps go from chain shirt to chain mail? What do the rest of you think?

From a story point of view, does it fit your concept? IE was she in more danger than she thought she would be? Or was she adequately protected? Just a thought.

As far as trading up armor I am willing. Luminmorn could us heavier armor. I don't believe he uses Dex for anything.

Exeter - Chain Mail (AC16) does not allow you to use your dex. It counts as Heavy Armour and all heavy armour disallows Dex modifiers. For medium armour ir depends upon whether you care about having a Stealth penalty or not. If you don't want a stealth penalty you can upgrade from a chain shirt (AC13) to a Breastplate (AC14), which increases your AC by 1 and keeps the same Max +2 Dex bonus that you have now. It runs 400gp.

If you don't care about having disadvantage on stealth rolls, and you'd still get the Max +2 Dex bonus, you could upgrade to Scale Mail (AC14) for 50gp or Half Plate (AC15) for 750gp. All of these choices allow you the same Dex bonus you currently have.

Heavy Armour, meaning no Dex bonus to AC allowed AND Disadvantage on Stealth rolls would be: (Ring Mail-AC14(30gp), Chain Mail-AC16(75gp), Splint Mail-AC17(200gp), and Plate Mail-AC18(1500gp)

Pande - Use the list above. I mentioned how much money the party has in the game thread. Note Bern has Leather and could be given the armour Ryssa or Luminmorn no longer need for free and still get an upgrade from it.

Bern is currently in leather so moving to Studded will gain him a +1 to AC.

He isn't above accepting hand me downs ... except ... wouldn't Ryssa's have ... lumps ... in the awkward places <weg> In the worst case, buying is only 45gp (less any trade in allowance <g>)

Ryssa does not consider herself a stealthy type character, so I wouldn't be concerned about stealth bonuses. I would, however, want her to retain her Dex bonus, so the most effective and economical choice, I suppose, would be the scale mail at 50gp.

She could probably shake the lumps out of her chain shirt and give that to another character.

Yes. A chain shirt is not "fitted" armour. It is just a shirt of chain pulled over your head so the 'lumps' would disappear when Ryssa took it off. <g>

So, if Ryssa wants the Scale Mail and Bern takes the Chain Shirt hand-me-down, then Luminmorn would be able to purchase anything short of full Plate Mail. Up to the group if they're willing to chip in their share of treasure if Luminmorn wants something expensive, like half-plate, but it looks like Splint would be a good choice and isn't much money.

Pande - Just double checking your AC, I am not sure I can figure out how he has a 17. Can you explain? I see Chain Mail=16, +1 for your Defensive Class Bonus = 17, then -1 for your Dex of 8 should equal 16, I think?

Either way, upgrading to Splint would bring a +1 to whatever the correct current value should be.

Hmm guess I forgot the -1 for the Dex. So I will upgrade to sCale to make it work again. Just have to note it and remove the appropriate gp.
Thanks

Ahhh ... but a chain shirt adds a lot of weight with no better AC than the studded. And it limits my ability increase AC later on. Plus the idea of all that 'jangly' stuff doesn't appeal all that much <g>

OK, everyone, please post in the game thread if you decide you want to purchase better armour and update your pc sheet.

Noted in thread and added a reply to my gallery thread. I can't seem to edit anymore.

I think MikeD said once there was some sort of time limit on editing. MikeD, can you open it for Pande?

lemme see about that ... I just did and edit with out any changes, see if you can get in now Pande. If not, lemme know what you need changed and I will take care of it <g>

OK ... Went with the studded for 45gp. If there is not enough in 'party treasure', he can pay for that out of personal funds. Just lemme know and I will adjust my personal total. That takes me up to AC 15, BTW.

Also, any chance that we can sell the excess armor for some 'fraction' of the cost? In most of the long running home games we used to run, we were usually able to sell back for half of book value.

Still don't see edit as an option.

Go ahead and make the edits. I think Luminmorn has 200gp, if not it can come from party funds. His chain is also up for grabs if Ryssa wants it.
Thanks

<sigh> Hmmm ... I think I will do a bit of research and see if I can find a way to make those posts editable.

In the short term, is there anything that needs to change besides the gold? What about armor and AC?

Also, I thought we were using party funds for the upgrades ... at least until it runs out <g> Zeim, do you know where we stand on all this yet?

Yes, any PC who is purchasing new armour that changes your AC you need to edit your pc sheet in the Gallery, please.

It would also be good to divide up the money:

((900gp) - (new net purchases) = (total remaining) / (#pcs) = gp/pc)

and update your pc sheets with the gold so we don't have to rummage thru all of the game material to recalculate going forwards.

OK ... but for that we would need to have a better grasp on what we each have <wink> Also we will want to address the issue of using 'party' funds. FWIW I am fine with divvying up the 'loot' and each buying their own upgrades. But I don't mind doing the divvy and then letting each buy their own. Either works for me.

If, once we get =that= part sorted, I have not found a way to let folks go in and update their sheets, I will be happy to do that ... as long as I get a hint of what gets changed to what <wink>

For coin, you should have what's on your sheets plus whatever your share is of the calc above. Most of you spent the majority of your starting money on equipment so what's on your sheets shouldn't be that much.

The 900 is AFTER all spending to date (includes Bal's spellbook and Ryssa and Bals recent purchases). It also includes the 100 gp Lingo just brought back, but does NOT include any "loose" treasure Lingo has collected along the way <g>.

OK ... so, just to be clear, the 900 is after the armor upgrades?

No. It is before any of the armour upgrades.

OK ... so 180 per character.

So, does that leave anyone short for their armor upgrade? I know that Bern would be willing to help anyone needing extra coin for their armor.

Well for Luminmorn his AC doesn't change that is the point of the upgrade, as I had made is mistake earlier and this corrects that. Scale mail replaces chain mail.

As far as gp, just subtract 20gp from his total and his new armor will be paid for.

That does offer chain mail to any PC that wants it. If not he can sell it and recoup a little of what he spent depending upon what the sale price is.

Just to be clear ... you had 'chain mail' ... not 'chain shirt' and are 'trading down' to 'scale mail'?

Chain mail (75gp, AC 16) to Scale mail (50gp, AC 14+dex [max 2]) - cost=17gp (assuming trade in)

Chain shirt (50gp, AC13+dex [max 2]) to Scale maile (50gp, AC 14+dex [max 2]) - cost 25gp (assuming trade in)

So first or second?

I said the wrong thing Splint mail upgrade.