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| | | Joined: May 2000 Posts: 18,520 Likes: 7 Moderator | OP Moderator Joined: May 2000 Posts: 18,520 Likes: 7 | Why don't you. Any class will do. The party has balance as-is. | | | | Joined: May 2000 Posts: 80,333 Likes: 75 Wizop Administrator | Wizop Administrator Joined: May 2000 Posts: 80,333 Likes: 75 | Will do!  | | | | Joined: May 2000 Posts: 80,333 Likes: 75 Wizop Administrator | Wizop Administrator Joined: May 2000 Posts: 80,333 Likes: 75 | Just phoned Neil. He is in and will get started on his character tonight! YAY!  | | | | Joined: May 2000 Posts: 18,520 Likes: 7 Moderator | OP Moderator Joined: May 2000 Posts: 18,520 Likes: 7 | Yippee! That's a gread addition! | | | | Joined: May 2000 Posts: 18,520 Likes: 7 Moderator | OP Moderator Joined: May 2000 Posts: 18,520 Likes: 7 | Zeim and I had a little debate about money (no, we're not some married couple). He wanted to charge 5 SP for a mug of ale and I referred him back to the Players Handbook where the cost was 4 CP. He argued that the players will have too much money. I countered that there's a cost of living. Since part of this is about learning the game and, for many of us, evaluating rules, I figure that some of the new rules should be talked about. I'll start with the rewards and then tackle cost of living. Money and experience points aren't the only things you stand to gain. I suspect that there'll be more in the DM guide but the Adventurer League Player Guide introduces some new concepts in the section about how to fill out your log sheets: XP. You begin play with 0 experience points (XP).
Gold. You begin play with whatever gold pieces (gp) you had after you purchased your initial gear. You can express silver pieces (sp) and copper pieces (cp) by using decimals.
Downtime. At the end of each adventure, your character will earn days of downtime, which you can spend on different downtime activities. Your Dungeon Master will tell you how much downtime each adventure earns. You begin with 0 downtime days.
Renown. You begin play with 0 renown points in your faction. If you do not have a faction, you do not track renown (just fill all the lines with “0”).
Magic Items. Record the number of permanent magic items your character possess here; record the name of the item in the adventure notes area. You begin with 0 permanent magic items.
Adventure Notes/Downtime Activity. Use this space to record notes from the adventure. At a minimum, you should write down any magic items gained (permanent or consumable). If you’re spending downtime, note what activity you’re engaged in.
Since these are going to be legit AL characters, you might consider creating a personal log sheet if you intend to use them at a convention like Gencon or PAX. I attend a couple of local conventions in New Jersey (Dreamation and Dexcon) every year. I got a sense of satisfaction when I showed up with my 12th level 4e tiefling warlock and his 30 or so certs to a game. So what about cost of living? That comes from the Player's Handbook page 157:
Wretched ----
Squalid 1 sp
Poor 2 sp
Modest 1 gp
Comforable 2 GP
Wealthy 4 gp
Aristocraic 10 GP (min) Your initial reaction might be to say, I'll just decide to live a wretched lifestyle but there are consequence outline for all lifestyles worse than comfortable and benefits to the better lifestyle. Consequences of being poor might mean disadvantages. For example, if you were to walk into a place smelling of trash, you might get tossed out. If you got into some legal tangle, your judge might want you off the street to better the town. The PHB goes into some of this but it's left to the DM, I think, to make it work. Everyone is expected to start at the Modest level at least. I'll expect that some of you, for roleplaying purposes, will want to play a level up or down. I'm OK with that but there will be consequences. So, there's this other stuff called Downtime and Renown points. Downtime is earned and you can use it to learn skills and make improvements to your PC. You can learn a language or a craft and therefore earn some degree of stat adjustments. Renown points are about your faction and how important you are in the hierarchy. In effect it's social experience points. Again, when the DMG comes out I suspect that there'll be stuff in it about gaining followers and building castles and stuff like that. | | | | Joined: Apr 2007 Posts: 174,122 Likes: 8 Babylon 5 Rules Moderator | Babylon 5 Rules Moderator Joined: Apr 2007 Posts: 174,122 Likes: 8 | The GP living standard costs, what is the time period for that. Per week? Per month? Per day? | | | | Joined: May 2000 Posts: 80,333 Likes: 75 Wizop Administrator | Wizop Administrator Joined: May 2000 Posts: 80,333 Likes: 75 | It is per day Ken  | | | | Joined: May 2000 Posts: 80,333 Likes: 75 Wizop Administrator | Wizop Administrator Joined: May 2000 Posts: 80,333 Likes: 75 | Modest is perfect for Jaliera living with 2 others in a room in her mentor's house. Why do you think she asked the price of the mutton stew?  | | | | Joined: Apr 2007 Posts: 174,122 Likes: 8 Babylon 5 Rules Moderator | Babylon 5 Rules Moderator Joined: Apr 2007 Posts: 174,122 Likes: 8 | Dang, guess we will have to start earning some gold or Balthazar will be selling some charmed woman on the streets to make a living. Oh wait! Wrong alignment! Drats! Is it too late to be LE?  | | | | Joined: May 2000 Posts: 18,520 Likes: 7 Moderator | OP Moderator Joined: May 2000 Posts: 18,520 Likes: 7 | Actually, as stated before, but worth repeating. You can change anything up until 4th level except for your name  Balthazar the male GL human wizard could become Balthazar the female half-orc LE barbarian  | | | | Joined: May 2000 Posts: 80,333 Likes: 75 Wizop Administrator | Wizop Administrator Joined: May 2000 Posts: 80,333 Likes: 75 | Now that is a character shift!  Neil is pulling together a human monk currently  | | | | Joined: May 2000 Posts: 42,492 Likes: 12 Member | Member Joined: May 2000 Posts: 42,492 Likes: 12 | Ken, as gypsy said, it is per day ... =but= ... you only pay that 'upkeep' when you are 'spending' your down time days outside of actual game play.
So, as far as I know (and I am sure that Nep will correct me if I missed it) your actual play does not require that expense. The GM will 'copper and silver' us to death explicitly ... as with drinks and food in our current situation <g> ... to account for our 'costs of doing business' ... rather than an 'average cost' of existing in the style to which you have become accustomed <g>
MikeD
| | | | Joined: Oct 2001 Posts: 23,049 Likes: 12 (Buffalo) Moderator | (Buffalo) Moderator Joined: Oct 2001 Posts: 23,049 Likes: 12 | Correct. In between adventures, when you are spending your accumulated "Down Days" to learn a language or a tool that is your cost of living expense.
Also note, for those who have taken Backgrounds in order to obtain the extra Skills Training they provide, each background comes with a specific level of COL. That is the level you need to pay during that time. | | | | Joined: May 2000 Posts: 18,520 Likes: 7 Moderator | OP Moderator Joined: May 2000 Posts: 18,520 Likes: 7 | Welcome aboard Neil. You'll be playing in the "N" game that I will run.
Dugan is also putting a PC together. | | | | Joined: May 2000 Posts: 13,227 Likes: 10 Wobbly Headed Administrator | Wobbly Headed Administrator Joined: May 2000 Posts: 13,227 Likes: 10 | Thanks Neptune! Hello all. Great stuff!  (I'll post after I grab some shut-eye.) | | | | Joined: Oct 2001 Posts: 23,049 Likes: 12 (Buffalo) Moderator | (Buffalo) Moderator Joined: Oct 2001 Posts: 23,049 Likes: 12 | | | | | Joined: May 2000 Posts: 42,492 Likes: 12 Member | Member Joined: May 2000 Posts: 42,492 Likes: 12 | Damn, I think Chandan looks like a better character for our group <pout>
Welcome anyway Neil <g>
MikeD
| | | | Joined: May 2000 Posts: 42,492 Likes: 12 Member | Member Joined: May 2000 Posts: 42,492 Likes: 12 | Damn, so which wrong name did I use? <sigh>
MikeD
| | | | Joined: Oct 2001 Posts: 23,049 Likes: 12 (Buffalo) Moderator | (Buffalo) Moderator Joined: Oct 2001 Posts: 23,049 Likes: 12 | | | | | Joined: Aug 2005 Posts: 46,267 Member | Member Joined: Aug 2005 Posts: 46,267 | I was wondering if Bern and Hawk were the same person.  | | | | Joined: May 2000 Posts: 42,492 Likes: 12 Member | Member Joined: May 2000 Posts: 42,492 Likes: 12 | <sigh> Gods, I gotta pay more attention when using cut and paste. I had used C&P for a hawk post just before that one. Apparently when I did the same for Bern, the copy part didn't work <grumble> Anyway, thanks <g>
Actually, Ex, they are the same =player=, so that's close to the same thing ... isn't it? <g>
MikeD
| | | | Joined: Aug 2005 Posts: 46,267 Member | Member Joined: Aug 2005 Posts: 46,267 | Closer than... well, closer than something that's farther away, I suppose.  | | | | Joined: May 2000 Posts: 42,492 Likes: 12 Member | Member Joined: May 2000 Posts: 42,492 Likes: 12 |
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