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| | | | Joined: Nov 2004 Posts: 13,734 Likes: 33 Maris Imperium Moderator | OP Maris Imperium Moderator Joined: Nov 2004 Posts: 13,734 Likes: 33 | The last thing you remember is the taste of honeyed ale and the kind smile of the innkeeper as he handed you the tankard. "For the dreams, " he'd said.
You do not wake gently. You jerk upright, a cold stiffness in your neck, still seated at the heavy oak table in the common room of The Hearth's Rest. But the world is wrong.
The great stone fireplace across the room is a dark, cold maw filled with grey ash. The cheerful roar of the storm has been replaced by a silence so deep it presses on your ears. The front door is no longer wood and iron. It is a seamless arch of ancient, grey stone set into the wall, carved with four symbols: a flame, a wave, a gust of wind, and a mountain. To your left, the long, polished bar stretches into the shadows.
You rush to a window. No rain streaks the glass. Only a formless, swirling grey mist stares back, featureless and endless.
On the table before you, clean and stark, lies a parchment. Its elegant script reads: The fire gives no warmth. The water has no taste. The earth bears no weight. The air carries no song. Balance them, and wake.
A sudden, rhythmic sound breaks the silence: drip... drip... drip... It comes from behind that long, polished bar.
You are utterly, completely alone. | | | | | Joined: Jan 2023 Posts: 9,549 Likes: 24 Coordinator of Chaos Moderator | Coordinator of Chaos Moderator Joined: Jan 2023 Posts: 9,549 Likes: 24 | I'd go check behind the bar. See where the water is dripping. | | | | | Joined: Nov 2004 Posts: 13,734 Likes: 33 Maris Imperium Moderator | OP Maris Imperium Moderator Joined: Nov 2004 Posts: 13,734 Likes: 33 | Behind the bar, the drip originates from a small wooden keg mounted on a stand. A single, fat drop of amber liquid swells at its spout before falling with a soft plink into a tin pail.
Crude, deep scratches mark measures from 0 to 10 along its side; the liquid sits just below the 8. A slate leans against it, the chalk writing smudged but clear: 'Old Tom's Order: 4 measures of the Stormbrew. No more, no less. He's picky. -K'
Glancing at the shelves, you spot a delicate, clear-glass flask and a stout, green-glass bottle among the others. They are labeled clearly to hold exactly 3 and 5 measures respectively.
Tucked under the counter on its own shelf is an empty tankard inscribed with the name "Old Tom." | | | | | Joined: May 2000 Posts: 82,732 Likes: 95 Wizop Administrator | Wizop Administrator Joined: May 2000 Posts: 82,732 Likes: 95 | Hope I got this right. Pour the pail into the 3 bottle and then into the Tankard, leaving 5 in the pail and 3 in the tankard.
Repeat this suquence which leaves 2 in the pail and 6 in the tankard.
Pour the takard in the 5 bottle which leaves 2 in the pail, 5 in the 5 bottle and 1 in the tankard.
Pour the 5 bottle into the 3 and then add it to the tankard to give a 4 measure!
<fingers crossesd> | | | | | Joined: Nov 2004 Posts: 13,734 Likes: 33 Maris Imperium Moderator | OP Maris Imperium Moderator Joined: Nov 2004 Posts: 13,734 Likes: 33 | You attempt this solution, but realize that the tankard can't hold 6 measures. It looks to hold a bit over the 4 (precisely) that Old Tom wants. Attempting to pour 6 into it would overflow it.
Frustrated, you pour everything back into the pail and contemplate the measures again. | | | | | Joined: May 2000 Posts: 16,181 Likes: 9 Moderator | Moderator Joined: May 2000 Posts: 16,181 Likes: 9 | 1. Fill the 5 bottle from the pail. 2. Fill the 3 bottle from the 5 bottle. 3. Put the remaining 2 that are in the 5 bottle in the tankard. 4. Pour the 3 bottle back into the pail. 5-7 Repeat Steps 1 - 3
-- C'ur A'lduin
| | | | | Joined: Nov 2004 Posts: 13,734 Likes: 33 Maris Imperium Moderator | OP Maris Imperium Moderator Joined: Nov 2004 Posts: 13,734 Likes: 33 | You pour the precise four measures into the tankard. A deep, mechanical CLUNK resonates within the bar's frame. The entire shelf unit shudders and swings inward, revealing a hidden compartment.
Inside lie two ceramic jugs, elegantly marked 'III' and 'VII'. | | | | | Joined: May 2000 Posts: 16,181 Likes: 9 Moderator | Moderator Joined: May 2000 Posts: 16,181 Likes: 9 | Other than the numbers, are the jugs identical? (basically are they the same size, or does the number appear to have some relation to the size of the jugs)
-- C'ur A'lduin
| | | | | Joined: Nov 2004 Posts: 13,734 Likes: 33 Maris Imperium Moderator | OP Maris Imperium Moderator Joined: Nov 2004 Posts: 13,734 Likes: 33 | You inspect the jugs. The jug with VII on it looks like it holds a little more than twice the volume of the jug with III on it.
Also, the jug with VII on it seems to contain a rolled up piece of paper inside it. Pulling it out and unrolling it, you read:
They say Young Tom's half the man; Give him half of what Old Tom can. Pour his due into the basin round, Let the waves wash it to the ground. | | | | | Joined: Jan 2023 Posts: 9,549 Likes: 24 Coordinator of Chaos Moderator | Coordinator of Chaos Moderator Joined: Jan 2023 Posts: 9,549 Likes: 24 | This might be a reference to the first riddle/challenge since Alduin just filled Old Tom's tankard. In that regard should be 2oz in a round basin. Wherever that might be because I haven't seen one mentioned yet.
Last edited by Miales; Sun 14/12/2025 17:45 UTC.
| | | | | Joined: Nov 2004 Posts: 13,734 Likes: 33 Maris Imperium Moderator | OP Maris Imperium Moderator Joined: Nov 2004 Posts: 13,734 Likes: 33 | Realizing there's something more you need to do, you look around the room, recalling the parchment you originally found that seemed to indicate four clues, possibly related to the archway at the door.
The fireplace is mentioned, and you've been pouring liquids into containers and have a hint where that's going, but what about the other two? You decide to pause and look around the room again for more hints for directions to go.
The common room is cluttered with the comforts of a well-loved inn, yet everything feels frozen, staged. Against one wall stands a tarnished suit of armor, its shield facing outward. Four symbols are etched into the shield's face in a circle: a mountain at the top, then a gust of wind on the right side, a flame at the bottom, and a wave on the left, seeming to match the symbols on the arch. Dust clings to the visor, undisturbed.
On a nearby wall, a framed piece of parchment hangs slightly askew—sheet music titled "The Lay of the Four Winds" ... yet another hint at the number four perhaps?
Beneath your feet, the floor is a patchwork of broad flagstones, worn smooth by generations of boots. As you look toward the fireplace you notice one stone near the corner of the hearth sits unevenly, its edge lifted just enough to catch the toe of a careless step. | | | | | Joined: May 2000 Posts: 82,732 Likes: 95 Wizop Administrator | Wizop Administrator Joined: May 2000 Posts: 82,732 Likes: 95 | Four elements, four winds...
Walk over to the fireplace, look closely at the stone in the fireplace. | | | | | Joined: Nov 2004 Posts: 13,734 Likes: 33 Maris Imperium Moderator | OP Maris Imperium Moderator Joined: Nov 2004 Posts: 13,734 Likes: 33 | The stone moves a little if you step on it, and it looks like you might be able to pry it open, but try as you might, you don't seem to be able to do so with just your fingers. | | | | | Joined: May 2000 Posts: 82,732 Likes: 95 Wizop Administrator | Wizop Administrator Joined: May 2000 Posts: 82,732 Likes: 95 | Look around for a tool or some sort of switch that might trigger it. | | | | | Joined: Nov 2004 Posts: 13,734 Likes: 33 Maris Imperium Moderator | OP Maris Imperium Moderator Joined: Nov 2004 Posts: 13,734 Likes: 33 | You make a more careful investigation around the fireplace in the vicinity of the crooked flagstone. You don't see any switches, but there is a red brick in the frame that can be removed.
Doing so requires a bit of wiggling and scraping, but reveals nothing behind the brick but the stone wall.
There don't appear to be any other places in the room where things might be stored, so you return to behind the bar, looking underneath it. Besides the usual barware, tableware, and jars of various spices, you see a wooden crate.
Opening the crate reveals a small hammer, a crowbar, and a wide, round silver basin. | | | | | Joined: Jan 2023 Posts: 9,549 Likes: 24 Coordinator of Chaos Moderator | Coordinator of Chaos Moderator Joined: Jan 2023 Posts: 9,549 Likes: 24 | List of tools...
Crowbar Hammer Wide Round Basin
Note: the Water Riddles... The basin is most likely for Young Tom's portion (2nd Riddle: line 3) which should be 2oz (2nd Riddle: Line 2)
Earth:
I attempt to use the crowbar to pry up the loose stone. | | | | | Joined: Nov 2004 Posts: 13,734 Likes: 33 Maris Imperium Moderator | OP Maris Imperium Moderator Joined: Nov 2004 Posts: 13,734 Likes: 33 | Prying up the heavy flagstone reveals a shallow space. Inside are a simple brass balance scale and a linen bag. The bag holds five smooth stones. Each is faintly stamped with a symbol: a Hearth, a Mug, a Bed, a Crescent Moon, and a Key. | | | | | Joined: Jan 2023 Posts: 9,549 Likes: 24 Coordinator of Chaos Moderator | Coordinator of Chaos Moderator Joined: Jan 2023 Posts: 9,549 Likes: 24 | I gather these items and take them to the counter top. Laying them out:
Items laid out on Countertop:
Crowbar Hammer Wide Round Silver Basin Simple Brass balance scale Linen Bag Smooth Stone: Hearth Smooth Stone: Mug Smooth Stone: Bed Smooth Stone: Crescent Moon Smooth Stone: Key
Counter top: I weigh each stone against each other to order them on the counter heaviest to lightest. (Or Do I need to explain how? Wait we're dealing with Aqua)
This is done by placing one stone in one pan of the balance scale and another stone in the other pan. Then Observing which stone is heavier or if they balance evenly. Then systematically comparing all stones against each other. So it'd go
Compare Hearth Stone with Key Stone Note which is heavier. Then compare the heavier stone with Bed Stone. Continue this process until all stones have been compared. | | | | | Joined: Nov 2004 Posts: 13,734 Likes: 33 Maris Imperium Moderator | OP Maris Imperium Moderator Joined: Nov 2004 Posts: 13,734 Likes: 33 | You weigh the stones against each other and determine the order, from lightest to heaviest, is Hearth < Mug < Key < Bed < Crescent Moon | | | | | Joined: May 2000 Posts: 82,732 Likes: 95 Wizop Administrator | Wizop Administrator Joined: May 2000 Posts: 82,732 Likes: 95 | Look around for something to use the balance weights on. If not, try them on the scales - hearth & bed, mug & key, use the moon to the lightest side. | | | | | Joined: Nov 2004 Posts: 13,734 Likes: 33 Maris Imperium Moderator | OP Maris Imperium Moderator Joined: Nov 2004 Posts: 13,734 Likes: 33 | You put hearth and bed stones on one side, and mug and key stones on the other side. It tips slightly toward hearth & bed. But the moon stone, being the heaviest, is way too much and tips that side down.
You experiment a bit more, and discover the hearth and mug stone exactly balance with the bed stone.
And the mug and bed stone exactly balance with the moon. | | | | | Joined: May 2000 Posts: 82,732 Likes: 95 Wizop Administrator | Wizop Administrator Joined: May 2000 Posts: 82,732 Likes: 95 | Then try Moon and Mug to balance with Bed, Key & Hearth. | | | | | Joined: Nov 2004 Posts: 13,734 Likes: 33 Maris Imperium Moderator | OP Maris Imperium Moderator Joined: Nov 2004 Posts: 13,734 Likes: 33 | You place Moon and Mug on one side, and Bed, Key, & Hearth on the other side, and the scales balance!
You feel accomplished. | | | | | Joined: May 2000 Posts: 82,732 Likes: 95 Wizop Administrator | Wizop Administrator Joined: May 2000 Posts: 82,732 Likes: 95 | Wonderful!  | | | | | Joined: Nov 2004 Posts: 13,734 Likes: 33 Maris Imperium Moderator | OP Maris Imperium Moderator Joined: Nov 2004 Posts: 13,734 Likes: 33 | While briefly disappointed that nothing happens, you decide you've at least solved part of a problem but don't yet know the other part.
Somewhat like that basin you don't know what to do with yet.
Still, there are other clues to pursue. You glance again toward the front door, trying to inventory where you are... | | | | | Joined: Nov 2004 Posts: 13,734 Likes: 33 Maris Imperium Moderator | OP Maris Imperium Moderator Joined: Nov 2004 Posts: 13,734 Likes: 33 | You look around at the objects you've collected and not yet used.
There's the brick you removed from near the fireplace, or the hole it left, or maybe something related?
There's also the hammer you found in the crate.
And what was that song you saw? | | | | | Joined: Jan 2023 Posts: 9,549 Likes: 24 Coordinator of Chaos Moderator | Coordinator of Chaos Moderator Joined: Jan 2023 Posts: 9,549 Likes: 24 | With careful measrements using Alduin's method I pour 2oz of liquid into the round basin. | | | | | Joined: May 2000 Posts: 82,732 Likes: 95 Wizop Administrator | Wizop Administrator Joined: May 2000 Posts: 82,732 Likes: 95 | Sorry like everyone guess we've all been busy with holiday stuff!  Still busy myself but some thoughts that might help others.. The fire gives no warmth. - so maybe we should light a fire? The water has no taste. - do we need to flavour it? The earth bears no weight. - maybe the brick needs to go in the hole again? The air carries no song. - maybe need to create a melody or sound? Balance them, and wake. - And then this results.  | | | | | Joined: Nov 2004 Posts: 13,734 Likes: 33 Maris Imperium Moderator | OP Maris Imperium Moderator Joined: Nov 2004 Posts: 13,734 Likes: 33 | You consider the parchment's four elements. Fire. Water. Earth. Air.
They match the suit of armor's. Indeed, it seems you probably need to solve one puzzle in each category.
You've got the earth, possibly, with the balanced stones. And the water quantity and basin.
But fire and air... maybe that song about the wind is applicable for the air, and lighting the fireplace seems to make sense, too. But how?
As you look more closely at the armor, you think there might be something hidden behind that dusty visor. | | | | | Joined: Apr 2002 Posts: 23,058 Likes: 3 Moderator | Moderator Joined: Apr 2002 Posts: 23,058 Likes: 3 | Carefully lift the visor. | | | | | Joined: Nov 2004 Posts: 13,734 Likes: 33 Maris Imperium Moderator | OP Maris Imperium Moderator Joined: Nov 2004 Posts: 13,734 Likes: 33 | You get a bit of dust on your fingers, but you find a dusty leather-bound volume, with a cloth bookmark. You open to the bookmarked page and read:
Dragon's Breath Ignition (For Smithwork)
For a flame that reveals: 1. Salt of Silver (cleanses). 2. Niter from the Red Rock (quickens). 3. A Spark from the Heart Itself (ignites). | | | | | Joined: Nov 2004 Posts: 13,734 Likes: 33 Maris Imperium Moderator | OP Maris Imperium Moderator Joined: Nov 2004 Posts: 13,734 Likes: 33 | You think to yourself, "Hey, looks like I need these three things to start a fire." | | | | | Joined: May 2000 Posts: 82,732 Likes: 95 Wizop Administrator | Wizop Administrator Joined: May 2000 Posts: 82,732 Likes: 95 | Still only half a brain.. but could the brick be Red Rock? | | | | | Joined: Nov 2004 Posts: 13,734 Likes: 33 Maris Imperium Moderator | OP Maris Imperium Moderator Joined: Nov 2004 Posts: 13,734 Likes: 33 | You look at the brick and it does indeed look like a Red Rock. Even more, the act of wiggling it out of its spot on the hearth produced a small pile of red rock dust.
Looking at the list you also see "Heart" and glance around, finding that every table has a small glowing lantern on it... not flame, but something else. They are each marked with different symbols. One, on a table next to where you found the parchment, is marked with a heart.
Now... the salt? | | | | | Joined: May 2000 Posts: 82,732 Likes: 95 Wizop Administrator | Wizop Administrator Joined: May 2000 Posts: 82,732 Likes: 95 | So salt of silver? The bowl is silver. Could we find something that reacts with it?
The other thing that comes to mind are the various spice jars behind the bar. Go and examine thses. | | | | | Joined: Nov 2004 Posts: 13,734 Likes: 33 Maris Imperium Moderator | OP Maris Imperium Moderator Joined: Nov 2004 Posts: 13,734 Likes: 33 | Behind the bar there are indeed many spices, most in jars. Near them is a jar of rock salt, and a small, pure silver, salt cellar. | | | | | Joined: May 2000 Posts: 82,732 Likes: 95 Wizop Administrator | Wizop Administrator Joined: May 2000 Posts: 82,732 Likes: 95 | Is the salt cellar empty? | | | | | Joined: Nov 2004 Posts: 13,734 Likes: 33 Maris Imperium Moderator | OP Maris Imperium Moderator Joined: Nov 2004 Posts: 13,734 Likes: 33 | The salt cellar is currently empty, but you could easily put rock salt from the jar into it. And maybe even some of that brick dust. | | | | | Joined: May 2000 Posts: 82,732 Likes: 95 Wizop Administrator | Wizop Administrator Joined: May 2000 Posts: 82,732 Likes: 95 | Check first there is wood in the fireplace.
OK try both and take the salt cellar to the heart lantern. See if it ignites. If so Head to the fireplace. | | | | | Joined: Nov 2004 Posts: 13,734 Likes: 33 Maris Imperium Moderator | OP Maris Imperium Moderator Joined: Nov 2004 Posts: 13,734 Likes: 33 | The mixture of rock salt and brick crumbs ignites with glowing blue flame.... not burning, but some sort of magical light.
But the light goes away when you move away from the lantern... however, the lantern is portable, and when placed together with the salt cellar inside the fireplace, it lights up! | | | | | Joined: May 2000 Posts: 82,732 Likes: 95 Wizop Administrator | Wizop Administrator Joined: May 2000 Posts: 82,732 Likes: 95 | Thinking about the sound.. we have a hammer which could tap out a tune on something. We have sheet music. I was inclined to think that as this is air, we might have to blow an instrument? OK two things to try, whistle the tune on the sheet music, if not look around for any wind instrument or anything to play with the hammer. | | |
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