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| | | Joined: May 2009 Posts: 16,644 Likes: 16 Chaotic Obfuscator Moderator | Chaotic Obfuscator Moderator Joined: May 2009 Posts: 16,644 Likes: 16 | I should note that normally your foes will draw cards as well for initiative. It might be one card for a group or multiple, depending upon how I choose to break them up.
I didn't do that this round because I felt it told a better story to have the PCs act and the goblins act in the response post. | | | | Joined: Dec 2020 Posts: 2,290 Likes: 11 Moderator | Moderator Joined: Dec 2020 Posts: 2,290 Likes: 11 | How much time has passed in rounds since combat ended and the goblin rider appeared? Both Coral and Catalena had durations to track. | | | | Joined: May 2009 Posts: 16,644 Likes: 16 Chaotic Obfuscator Moderator | Chaotic Obfuscator Moderator Joined: May 2009 Posts: 16,644 Likes: 16 | [OOC: About two rounds. That is why I am not worried about the bennies carrying over.] | | | | Joined: Apr 2016 Posts: 6,252 Likes: 9 Member | Member Joined: Apr 2016 Posts: 6,252 Likes: 9 | [OOC: I don't have the rules with me at the moment but does the combat section have something like "If Your Mount Falls in Battle If your mount falls, you have to succeed on a DC 15 Ride check to make a soft fall and take no damage. If the check fails, you take 1d6 points of damage." I'm just trying to look out for Coral  ] | | | | Joined: May 2009 Posts: 16,644 Likes: 16 Chaotic Obfuscator Moderator | Chaotic Obfuscator Moderator Joined: May 2009 Posts: 16,644 Likes: 16 | No, there isn't something like that. However, I did have him look at options for not falling, which I graciously ignored. He took his action to stand and swing. Coral was conveniently near by. It has nothing to do with the fact that she just eviscerated his favorite ride. | | | | Joined: Apr 2016 Posts: 6,252 Likes: 9 Member | Member Joined: Apr 2016 Posts: 6,252 Likes: 9 | No, there isn't something like that. However, I did have him look at options for not falling, which I graciously ignored. He took his action to stand and swing. Coral was conveniently near by. It has nothing to do with the fact that she just eviscerated his favorite ride. Of course. I was sure he would not mind his favourite ride being gutted | | | | Joined: Dec 2020 Posts: 2,290 Likes: 11 Moderator | Moderator Joined: Dec 2020 Posts: 2,290 Likes: 11 | How do multi-dice weapon damages work for Aces in Savage Worlds? Selaim's hand crossbow does 2d4. Does it Ace only on an 8 and then you roll 2d4 again? Or if either of the d4s gets a 4 is that an Ace and you track them individually? | | | | Joined: Jan 2023 Posts: 7,869 Likes: 20 Coordinator of Chaos Moderator | Coordinator of Chaos Moderator Joined: Jan 2023 Posts: 7,869 Likes: 20 | I'd say err on side of caution... Ace on 2d4 would be an 8 since the damage calls for 2d4 not 1d4, 1d4. | | | | Joined: Dec 2020 Posts: 2,290 Likes: 11 Moderator | Moderator Joined: Dec 2020 Posts: 2,290 Likes: 11 | But in a way it makes 2d4 cooler than 1d8 and maybe that's why they made the distinction so you have more of a chance for higher damage rather than the consistency of a sword. Like a little crossbow bolt could be a little more deadly when it hits between the armor. | | | | Joined: Sep 2000 Posts: 61,373 Likes: 3 Arssanguinus Moderator | Arssanguinus Moderator Joined: Sep 2000 Posts: 61,373 Likes: 3 | If it was an ace chance on each d4 there is a greater chance of getting an ace, but that ace has lower potential if it only counts on that dice. | | | | Joined: Apr 2016 Posts: 6,252 Likes: 9 Member | Member Joined: Apr 2016 Posts: 6,252 Likes: 9 | The rules are written for face to face gaming. In ftf, you have to roll the dice individually: d4,d4, when it calls for 2d4. So, we should do the same here.
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| | | | Joined: Dec 2020 Posts: 2,290 Likes: 11 Moderator | Moderator Joined: Dec 2020 Posts: 2,290 Likes: 11 | I like all of the points that Art and Angrboda made. They equal my own thoughts.
One thing I love about Pathfinder is how they make individual weapons different in their own ways and it seems like with SavageFinder they tried to preserve that.
And, it doesn't make it overpowered... you'd still need two 4's to get an 8 for the scenario of only Acing on an 8 for two dice. | | | | Joined: Apr 2016 Posts: 6,252 Likes: 9 Member | Member Joined: Apr 2016 Posts: 6,252 Likes: 9 | The 2d4 have a very different distribution curve to the 1d8. Between the pair of them the 2d4 have an almost 50% chance of one of them acing, so you might expect the average to be 2½ + 2½ + ½x2½ = 6¾ whereas the d8 will average 4½ with only a 1 in 8 chance of acing. But the the d8 will, 1 in 8 times, give a total bigger than 8, and the chances of getting a 15 are the same as getting a 9. The 2d4 really struggle to get 15. | 1 member likes this:
Vryx | | | | Joined: Apr 2016 Posts: 6,252 Likes: 9 Member | Member Joined: Apr 2016 Posts: 6,252 Likes: 9 | And of course, because there is a threshold to cross to hurt things, a solid average of 6¾ damage is great if the targets have a toughness of 5. But if the target has a toughness of say 9 I would probably be looking to use the d8 weapon, because with a d8, 1 time in 8 I will get through ...
So of course I had to look at the stats...
... and the 2d4 is better all the time - which surprised me | | | | Joined: May 2009 Posts: 16,644 Likes: 16 Chaotic Obfuscator Moderator | Chaotic Obfuscator Moderator Joined: May 2009 Posts: 16,644 Likes: 16 | The rule in Savage Worlds is every die rolled can explode (Ace). If you have 2d4 you have more opportunity for explosions. A d6, 16 2/3%. A d4 25%, which does something interesting with 2 dice. I will have to do some research to verify that, but that is what I remember reading and playing for years. Till I find something that disputes that, I say they both aced, roll em till they don't. Then sum the total. Go ahead and kill all my monsters within a moment of introducing them, see if I care. <hides his crying face in a corner> Just makes me come up with tougher monsters.  | | | | Joined: May 2009 Posts: 16,644 Likes: 16 Chaotic Obfuscator Moderator | Chaotic Obfuscator Moderator Joined: May 2009 Posts: 16,644 Likes: 16 | Added a round of bennies to every PC, great posts guys! Keep up the good work! | | | | Joined: May 2009 Posts: 16,644 Likes: 16 Chaotic Obfuscator Moderator | Chaotic Obfuscator Moderator Joined: May 2009 Posts: 16,644 Likes: 16 | Before we go too much further, it is time for an Advancement! | | | | Joined: Apr 2016 Posts: 6,252 Likes: 9 Member | Member Joined: Apr 2016 Posts: 6,252 Likes: 9 | Yay!
Coral will take additional powers - 'fire bolt' and 'deflection'. | | | | Joined: Oct 2001 Posts: 23,063 Likes: 12 (Buffalo) Moderator | (Buffalo) Moderator Joined: Oct 2001 Posts: 23,063 Likes: 12 | Aendell will take Trademark Weapon (Long Sword) | | | | Joined: May 2009 Posts: 16,644 Likes: 16 Chaotic Obfuscator Moderator | Chaotic Obfuscator Moderator Joined: May 2009 Posts: 16,644 Likes: 16 | Both sound good, go ahead and update your sheets. | | | | Joined: Jan 2023 Posts: 7,869 Likes: 20 Coordinator of Chaos Moderator | Coordinator of Chaos Moderator Joined: Jan 2023 Posts: 7,869 Likes: 20 | Raising two stats that are below the stat dice
Planning on updating Fighting from d8 to d10 and Stealth from d6 to d8 | | | | Joined: May 2009 Posts: 16,644 Likes: 16 Chaotic Obfuscator Moderator | Chaotic Obfuscator Moderator Joined: May 2009 Posts: 16,644 Likes: 16 | | | | | Joined: Sep 2000 Posts: 61,373 Likes: 3 Arssanguinus Moderator | Arssanguinus Moderator Joined: Sep 2000 Posts: 61,373 Likes: 3 | Oops! Gotta do the advancement when I get home | | | | Joined: Dec 2020 Posts: 2,290 Likes: 11 Moderator | Moderator Joined: Dec 2020 Posts: 2,290 Likes: 11 | Pande, because you asked, as far as the boneyard scene, it's arguable that the weapon shop being 100' away but on the other side of the wall, that Catalena might be engagable for the encounter. But that's both if the timing is right and if somehow she'd be made aware. It doesn't seem probable or that it was the intention though. | | | | Joined: Sep 2000 Posts: 61,373 Likes: 3 Arssanguinus Moderator | Arssanguinus Moderator Joined: Sep 2000 Posts: 61,373 Likes: 3 | Does channel energy have any effect on undead in this system? | | |
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