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Neil, you offering to 'clean' mine?? <gd&r>

Ken, I feel ya on =that= one!! I have to keep some glasses here in case there is something I actually have to read stuff (Luckily I can adjust the text size here <whew>)


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Thanks! smile

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Did you see the news yesterday about Games Workshop being valued higher than M&S on the London Stock Exchange?

They've done incredibly well from the pandemic, ironically, and gave all their staff a £5K bonus as thanks!

Apparently the latest edition of Warhammer 40K has really took off (compared to Age of Sigmar, which divided the fanbase). I'll have to watch a few reviews, find out what the fuss is about.

And what's this about the Sabbat being reintroduced to Vampire: The Masquerade? I guess it was inevitable but personally I thought it was one of the best decisions they made in the new version of V:TM.

Anyway, thanks Argus! kiss

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Always interesting!! Thanks Argus!


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nem, I just picked up the new edition of Warhammer FRPG because I was in the mood to dig into some new rules and a comically non-epic roleplay system among all the very powered-up current games. My friend and I had a splendid time just rolling up characters that just seem so doomed, one of them even has the special trait that gives no advantages other than if they die -- in only a particular way -- then your NEXT character gets half their xp to start. My poor 5' 1" Reiklander apprentice boatman... desperately hoping to drown so next character can use a sword or something. Hahaha, it's great.

Though, I guess this isn't even Games Workshop anymore, it's Cubicle 7 Games.

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Hey now, I like having the Sabbat as bad guys.

It isn't every day you get spanged over the head with a shovel and have to dig your way out of your grave to your new unlife! grin

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Vryx. Good old times! Has anyone read a comparison between Cubicle 7's Warhammer FRPG and Zweihänder, which iirc was based on 2nd Ed Warhammer FRP?

Pandemonium. I like the evil of the Sabbat and much of their material, it's an important element to a vampire game. But I just never believed the Masquerade would stand up with a whole sect of vampires rampaging in public.

In earlier editions of V:TM there were entire Sabbat cities and that made no sense to me.

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I can tell you *my* comparison because those were my two choices to scratch this recent itch.

They had to get Zweihander "out of the back" for me because the damn thing was too big for the shelves. Seriously it was like 2" thick! And priced to match (though I've heard you can get the pdf for very cheap). There's no color art in it and the art wasn't as good as the Cubicle 7 and I just kinda went, "Sorry, back to the loch with you, Nessie" on Zweihander.

Warhammer FRPG is complex enough! Zweihander seemed even more so. Just reading through the combat rules of Warhammer, it sounds like it will take a couple hours just to get TPK'd by a single goblin.

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I don't know about the wargame but the Age of Sigmar RPG is excellent. It's like Exalted if Exalted had a system that didn't make everyone without a mathematics degree want to cry.

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I didn't realise they'd done an Age of Sigmar RPG. Nice one, Saph. Another Cubicle 7 work, subtitled Soulbound. Looks like it uses a dice pool mechanic, so going to be quite different to Warhammer Fantasy RP.

Although I'm not a huge fan of the Age of Sigmar setting, I think it was a savvy move by Games Workshop as most popular videos games have tended towards heroic gameplay with a set of iconic (and trademarked) heroes that can be cosplayed and memed and so on. AoS can feed off of that, whereas Oldhammer was more grimdark and fatalistic.

Vryx. After your description I sought out a page count for the core book and it's about 700 pages!! eek Absolutely ludicrous!


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I dunno ... it would seem to give 'players' a great deal of 'background' to work with. Think abut how many 'pages' there are =now= for D&D <g>


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True, MikeD. It could be all great material, I just pity the GM who has to lug it around. grin

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Yeah, DMing in person has always been good exercise. I used to have to carry a backpack for 3 source books (over 1000 pages all together), DM screens, dice, graph paper for mapping (I know I am dating myself), pencils, and more. In D&D 3.5 it was worse as they printed books for everything, classes had their own books, game worlds, spells, and more. As I recall it was at least 8-10 books to lug around.

On-line is much simpler, but has also added at least 10 pounds to my waist.

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I've been in for a penny, in for a pound on the Enemy Within Campaign books that each come with a companion. What am I doing?!? grin

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Well at least they offer proper PDFs, so you don't have to end up like Zeim 3.5. lol I remember all those splatbooks, it got totally insane!

Say, whilst looking at the Enemy Within Campaign I noticed Cubicle 7 are producing modules for Foundry VTT. Anyone have any experience with it?

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I've not seen Foundry. Just Roll20 and Tabletop Simulator.

Things is I hate PDFs so I guess I'm getting all these books... I think at least with the campaign books you only need one adventure at a time. I could see the companion books being persistently useful.

But it's hard enough for me to run my monthly Pathfinder game which is in its fifth year or something of this adventure and we're only 85% through the second of six modules. From what I've read about Warhammer RPG one combat might take multiple sessions. grin So yeah, definitely comparing the volume of material to my life expectancy at this point.

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It got so bad, Neil, that they completely gave up trying to have any internal consistency across Rulebooks and Compendiums. There were complete contradictions everywhere and they way overused the cop-out, "The DM decides".

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Well ... to be fair Zeim ... it has =ALWAYS= been at the DM's discretion as to what to use and how to use it <shrug> There have =always= been 'discrepancies' between 'sources' <shrug>


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Play Risus, then you only need one sheet!

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Sadly ... all the folks I used to live play with are ... <sigh> ... gone now.


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My brother is going to take over our FTF game in a couple of months and is going to run on Foundry VTT. I've play-tested just a tad with him and so far, so good. I have used Roll20 quite a bit but am curious how Foundry holds up.


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That is true, MikeD, but when you play with a bunch of Rules Lawyers it is very helpful when the rulebooks are consistent.

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